From an OOP 1967 lp titled Gypsy and I, here is Yul Brynner performing the song "The End of the Road". Although he had quit in 1971, his promotional photos often still showed him with a cigarette in hand. Yul Brynner Because of his contribution to spreading the Gypsy culture all over the world, in 1979 the International Romani Union named him an honorary president. http://www.bookrags.com/biography-august-krogh-wap/, Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira A Note on Yul Brynner’s Name viii Introduction 1 1. Adding to your cart. She … Mad Jack 22:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC), Completely unsourced? I am not sure about Ibrahimović but i think that he said in an interwiew that his father is Bosniak. https://the-talks.com/interview/sir-michael-caine/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:300A:15B6:6000:84D:887:B261:1139 (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2019 (UTC). http://www.radoc.net/RADOC-23-ADOPT.htm Vera (Borisovna) Bryner was the sister of Yul Brynner (who added a 2nd 'n' to the last name). YUL BRYNNER. They seem pretty specific to me. my family are of romany gypsy culture .. my mother and all her family are romany gypsies carrying the name butler... my dads family are also romany gypsies carrying the name hoskins... now my mothers side of the family are very olive skinned and black hair darker in general.. but my dads side is very fair skinned with light coloured hair but both are of romany gypsies culture my dads side are not as strong of a culture they are more relaxed and have settled in a house dwellers surroundings but still have alot of the morals and beliefs.. my mothers side are alot more involved in there culture and have continued to expess there morals and values in a high standard ..most are still in trailers on gypsy sites (what few remain) living there way of life to the best they can . Even the name, Yul: as … Actually he had only 1/4th of Romany blood, and 1/4th Jewish, by his mother Marousia Blagovidova, whose father was a Russian Jew and her mother a Russian Gypsy. Yul Brynner wasn’t only the King of Siam. It only takes a few generations of mixing to produce people who don't resemble Roma,some 1/2 Native Americans or Mexicans have blond hair blue eyes,my dad is half Roma, and for the most part he looks white and you would'nt think anything else. Listen to free internet radio, news, sports, music, and podcasts. That would make her 1/8th Romany. No, but I think that acknowledgement is positive when people have mixed ancestry. Is this list intended to include anyone famous that might have a decendant of romani stock? or allegedly. You were probably naive enough to believe it and consider yourself Gypsy or something and have developed an interest in this group... That is why you are including your American Pop-idols in the list of ethnic Roma. ), američki filmski glumac ruskog podrijetla. The Yul Brynner Cookbook Foods Fit for the King and You 200 Dishes He Liked Best. http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9017835?tocId=9017835, Eric Cantona- I dont know, I did'nt add him Yul Brynner won a best actor Oscar for playing King Mongkut of Siam in the 1956 film version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I. Shipping Info. What is believed is not always the truth. Free shipping . http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29504 Since you have quite appropriately distinguished Irish Travellers from Roma in many places, does this information not preclude his name from appearing here? Template:Robbyfoxxxx, Robyfoxxx I have the impression you are one of these 16 year-old new-age type girls and that someone in your family told that your great great grandmother was a Gypsy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaRom01 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 23 August 2017 (UTC), I have an explicit source that Michael Caine is 1/4 Roma/Gypsy - I will add in .... $85.00. She is not more Gypsy than I am. See more ideas about yul brynner, movie stars, actors. Besides Django Reinhardt is not Roma he is Sinti. Roma are an ethnicity, a culture and a race of people who have existed in Europe and the Middle East for hundreds of years. You act as if the world is Black and White.They are mixed Roma After his father abandoned the family, Brynner's mother took him and his sister to China, then to Paris, where he played guitar and sang gypsy songs in Parisian nightclubs. We use cookies and similar tools to enhance your shopping experience, to provide our services, understand how customers use our services so we can make improvements, and display ads. I dont know...I am of Roma descent and I cannot document that I am. Therefore I will keep putting these people on the list. There are people from everywhere, even from Bulgaria in Oklahoma. All I have asked you is not to vandalise the talk page. Well the same thing is going on right now, only there are no Roma to defend their own community on wikipedia (apart from gypsy-princess Robbyfox). (1957) Album: "The Gypsy and I: Yul Brynner Sings Gypsy Songs" (Vanguard Records) After his lung cancer had progressed to the terminal stage, Brynner taped a public service message urging others to quit smoking. Known as the bald cowboy in The Magnificent Seven and the sexy, charismatic male lead in The King and I, Yul Brynner was a Hollywood paragon of masculinity. Therefore, I am moving the list of "distant" ancestry here (as anyone is allowed to remove any content from Wikipedia that is unsourced). There are people who are Roma, Sinti or mixed Roma and Sinti; then there are people who have ancestry from these families and how many of these there are depends on how far you go back - most Europeans have somewhere in their past at least 1 Sinti or Roma ancestor. You seem to know everything, tell me more about me, Im sure you know more than me :) Robbyfoxxxx 20:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC). There are others, I have not looked at the list yet, I happened upon this page directly thru yahoo search, but hopefully the list also includes the likes of Johnny Cash, who stated he is Rom in his last autobiography. There are hundreds of references as to Yul Brynner Do you imagine Hitler on the list of famous Jewish people? I hope come to an agreement on the list.I also would like to apologize for all misunderstandings. I think this whole page should be blanked out and redone from scratch... Try it this way- If someone is on the list because they, themselves, stated they are Romany, then leave their name until you can prove the celebrity is lying. Someone claiming that their great grandfather was a gypsy (or cherokee for that matter) does not qualify them as belonging to the Roma ethnic group. The chances are that a young girl from midwest America who thinks she is a Gypsy and thinks that a long list of people (Bill Clinton, Britney Spears, Elvis Presley...) are also Gypsies, can only be white 8-), and I would add blonde!!!! Famous People who have voiced their Gypsy Ancestry done so to let people know they are of mixed ancestry and not 100% white or black and not 100% what they seem to be. Because of his contribution to spreading the Gypsy culture all over the world, in 1979 the International Romani Union named him an honorary president. A lot of the names given in the Media bit are dubious to say the least especially as the Roma and the Sinti are 2 distinct groups and it was mainly Sinti in the UK and I don't that most of them are that either, indeed one notable name left off is David Essex who is well known to be English Romani. Im changing the title to "People with Acknowledged Roma Heritage" since many of the are known to have Gypsy Ancestry like Charlie Chaplin. User "Robifoxxx"'s classification of who is Roma is eerily close to what it was in Nazi Germany (except in Nazi Germany probably provided proper resaerch and sources!!!!) Well she follows the Kabballa and has changed her name to Esther!! They must be taken seriously as an ethnic group, and not be victimized by western ignorance and romanticism. There is sources I have put them up,Just because someone has a Roma Ancestor DOES qualify them for this list,It does'nt matter if they are part of the culture or not.They still have Roma Blood, so stop erasing people, I've noticed you trolling on this and the Roma People link.I gonna have you banned if you continue to deface this list Robbyfoxxxx 20:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC). A notable one, at that, as was her grandfather. Endquote. He was best known for his portrayal of the King of Siam in the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical The King and I, for which he won two Tony Awards and an Academy Award for the film version; he played the role 4,625 times on stage. I personaly have a issue with Bill Clinton being listed here based on Ian Hancocks claims that he was Romani, it is highly disputable. Dont be so emotional? And get one thing clear, there are people of mixed ancestry,is that so hard to believe? You dont care? "When the notable Roma academic, Professor Ian Hancock, wrote his most recent book, We are the Romani people he included at the end a list of politicians, film stars, artists and so on of Romany descent. This discussion was already talked about and it was agreed that the list stays. If you are of Roma descent you dont get a Id card like Native Americans and you dont get documented as "this or that".I think also it is difficult to find a published source as to to who made whoopy with somebodys grandparent. While Brynner was still young, their father left them under the care of their mother. In the very least, I think that the disputed people should be organized as "Allegedly of Roma descent" Robbyfoxxxx 00:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC), Robbyfoxxxx 23:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC). The section is not for people who are not pure-blooded Roma (I dont think such thing exists), it is for people who are simply NOT Roma at all- Like George Soros, or Ava Gardner, but have or may have Roma ancestors... --Burgas00 23:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC). Charlie Chaplin did state he was Romany. Look, matters of this nature cannot be backed up. Select Your Cookie Preferences. there are blond blue eyed white people with black ancestry here in America, You fools,You think you can put people into your little file. (*$)#@ Gadjo, always fixing @*&* that aint broken!!!! The usage could suggest a gypsy lifesstyle and not ethnicity. Yul Brynner, who with shaved head and regally haughty presence played and replayed the starring role in "The King and I" for more than 30 years, died early today in a New York Hospital. We've developed a few templates over the years here at JONJ. It clarifies the often-conflicting stories of Yul Brynner's birth, describes his childhood in Paris (where he spent his time entertaining in gypsy night clubs), and his memorable stint on Broadway in "The King and I" in the 1950s. Can you give us their website? You are right Guzman, I need to calm down. It was a requirement, or else they would have denied approval for the campsite. Yul Brynner (Vladivostok, 7/7/1915 - New York, 10/10/1985) An undoubtedly controversial person, his origins have been a mystery for many. In addition to his work as a director and performer, Brynner was an active photographer and wrote two books. Past Imperfect 3 2. Just opposite that.I know that the Roma people were the subject of constant oppression in history not only in Balkan states but in whole Europe. The Roma of England have blond hair and blue eyes mostly.They also vaker the chib.There maybe a melting pot effect that is not occuring in the Balkans, but it is definitely happening in the US and Western Europe.Many of us American Roma don't know we are Roma until we are told when we are older by an Aunt,Uncle or Grandparent. I find this disrespectful and offensive. His father, a mining engineer, also abandoned his family to financial peril when Yul was young. Look at the earlier citings on this discussion page, Come on now, Im not going to repeat every citing to every single person who asks for it. Item Information. The latest dressing room to get a Yul-a-haul is at the Warner Theater, where "The King and I" starts previews Wednesday night, 30 years after Brynner and the King of Siam become associated. http://www.webprincess.com/facab/apr98.htm, Rodrigo de Triana As for the heading that was changed so many times "This list does not include people who are of Gypsy Ancestry" I think you are trying to say that you hate seeing Gypsies mix with other races. so leave it alone, this section is for "People with Roma Heritage", to differentiate from "Roma People". Etc., Etc., Etc. Famous Roma must be REAL Roma? http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Spain/Andalucia/Sevilla-253763/Things_To_Do-Sevilla-Triana_District-R-1.html-, The people on it are not randomly picked, @#%# Gadjos, you want everybody to do everything for you.Here's an idea, next time, find them yourself. You paint such broad brushstrokes, Gypsy is different than Roma? Jews visiting this site would be flipping out! 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